lurkin

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The respect that the dev shows is what he'll get in return.
Assuming you want to be able to pay your bills by selling monthly access to a thing you made. Some not-quite-commercial website grabs the thing you made and provides it for free without giving you anything back. Which kind of respect would you grant the people on said not-quite-commercial website?

Patreon is easy to understand: you show respect to a developer - the developer shows respect to you.
Show respect or get none back. Easy, isn't it?
 

lurkin

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"You must respect me because I say so, regardless of whether I respect your intellectual property" is not an argument.
 

Pr0GamerJohnny

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"You must respect me because I say so, regardless of whether I respect your intellectual property" is not an argument.
why are you defending a publisher on a website that exists to ripoff that publisher, i swear such a bizarre culture here sometimes....I can't imagine people touting the benefits of the RIAA back in the napster days........ either everyone's become more corporate or I've gotten old....
 

lurkin

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why are you defending a publisher on a website that exists to ripoff that publisher
I totally encourage said ripoff; in fact, I would not even know A Wife and Mother without this website and its rip..off..ers(?). However, knowing that I don't want to pay for a thing that has a price tag (namely, A Wife and Mother), I accept that I'm in no good position to tell the developer what to do when.

Face it: Neither are most of you.
 

Bishop Robert

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why are you defending a publisher on a website that exists to ripoff that publisher, i swear such a bizarre culture here sometimes....I can't imagine people touting the benefits of the RIAA back in the napster days........ either everyone's become more corporate or I've gotten old....
I'm not sure what the intent is with these people saying we have to pay for us to be able to talk.

It's REALLY weird.
 

Alley_Cat

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Assuming you want to be able to pay your bills by selling monthly access to a thing you made. Some not-quite-commercial website grabs the thing you made and provides it for free without giving you anything back. Which kind of respect would you grant the people on said not-quite-commercial website?

Patreon is easy to understand: you show respect to a developer - the developer shows respect to you.
Show respect or get none back. Easy, isn't it?
Let me put it this way. I wont mention the game, those that know me will know who I'm talking about, but there's a dev I discovered on this website who is almost the exact opposite to L&P. Only similarity is that their English isn't great.

But this is a dev that is interactive on the thread, loyal to their fans, and pumps out renders at something like 21/day. It's rare that an update takes longer than 3 weeks. I only play about a third of an update and still get content for my playthrough every single time. They've answered questions politely, even when they're copping heat for their game not fulfilling whatever specific kink someone wants.

Not the joke of a half dozen renders for the entire year.

That dev I've financially supported for a while now. That is a dev that shows respect, so deserves respect.

What do we get from L&P? Disdain for fan artists, and on the rare times they post here, only excuses. For many years, only vague answers to fan questions. Bloated updates that take far longer than they should. You seriously think that deserves respect? I've said a few times what it would take for me to become a financial supporter, and L&P has done the complete opposite.

This game had so much potential, and I'd love to become a financial supporter, but there are devs out there that deserve it more.
 

karleston

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I'm not the one demanding respect. However, I'm delighted to see that you decided to join my fight against people with an attitude.
Wake up dude, it's the internet (the bottom of it), where virtue prevails. The opinions of these people are too important to not be shared 5 times a day with the rest of us. And don't you dare think differently. Or you will be hanged
 
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