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thank you for getting them all tim hortons. it's good to be reminded that america isn't the only country that can pump out brands making shite food sometimes (i think you're in canada and it'll probably get the royal mountees at your door to like this comment so no need to acknowledge).
Adam's point that if an executive with ChatGPT could do all the rewrites and studio notes and the dozen other things it takes to actually produce a good script "they'd be a f**king writer" genuinely changed my brain chemistry. Also the joy from the writers room just recharged the batteries in my soul, this whole video SLAPS
AI needs humans to connect the pieces and explain it to people. This will change quickly, a couple of decades. People will explore infinite spaces of possibility, finding interesting paths worth walking again, and that's the content, the pedagogy, the symbiosis. We already experience this with search, video, etc in our terrestrial and human world
yup, they like to say it is a tool, but someone needs to wield the tool, usually it is not the boss, unless the boss has experience in the field, the same studios think they can remove the face of an actor and put it on another actor, and that it is a great idea, but what good actor would want to be the one hidden ?
@@devforfun5618my only assumption there would be so that you could brag that you’re the actual body double for a certain celebrity. cus we know actors aren’t gonna just let their faces be used, if it comes down to that they’ll license it out the same way they do for in person acting, it’ll just be cheaper than actually buying their time. people would certainly be happy to be known as the body for a celebrity if they do well enough. then comes the bottom line, it’s just going to be a lot of people desperate for auditions… so we would certainly have to define “good” actor. because it could very well just stunt any growth of hollywood. we would never need to find new faces, literally ever. acting would become something so different and dystopian i really just scared myself writing this comment
Huzzah for fanfiction, the only form of romance I actually care about! Why slash fics are interesting while traditional romance bores me, I can't say. I still prefer deep intimacy in nonsexual, non-romantic forms (close friendships, sibling bonds), to the point where I created a whole fic form to showcase that ("Five Moments of Intimacy"), but I can tolerate way more romantic content in slash than I ever could in mainstream fiction of any sort 🤷🏽♀️
...also I lost the point I was trying to make (stupid tiny textbox on RUclips Mobile!), but it was that we get to make those romances that truly appeal to us, and find other people who also enjoy them -- and also get to find ones that are close to what we like, and build off them to be *precisely* what we want. It's quite freeing!
I had never heard of bride wars but I misinterpreted the AI synopsis as the two wedding planners are falling for each other and now I need THAT movie instead.
A crazy couple with ridiculous standards hires 2 wedding planners to leverage their ideas against each other, the wedding planners cross paths and clash over and over while falling in love.
21 dresses isn't exactly that movie, but it's in the neighborhood! might hold you over while you guys work on the screenplay for "the wedding planners" (tried to think of a better title, but no dice - sorry!)
This! And to me the process of the writers room taking an unsatisfactory source material and proposing new original ideas or trying to “fix-it” is the same process as a lot of fanfiction
Nice get getting Adam to guest on your video. The WGA did well choosing him as one of faces of the striking writers, he’s both passionate and articulate on the issues.
Oh my god, the idea of having the director confessing his love to show the actor how to do it would probably take my breath away, I'm not even a fan of romcoms but if that was executed correctly I think I would shed some tears
"My favorite rom-com doesn't exist!" Me every time I start writing The writer's room energy is so real, though. A near-perfect high (as long as you aren't doing it for a studio day in and day out, I assume). See also: unhinged, collaborative RPG playing.
@@3row4wy23I don't know about the history of this, but surely many people would get the idea independently to highlight the thing they're referencing, no?
@@MissNoechen basically, like a week ago Hbomberguy released a video in which he called out three really (one formerly) popular youtubers for being purposeful plagiarists (using major pieces of articles and books in their scripts, only partially citing how much they copy or just reading an entire article without citing it, etc) after which many video essayists have been reviewing the way they cite stuff, including highlighting anything they cite so it's really obvious what they cite and how much to make sure they're not plagiarising themselves
So that interaction you had with your "writers room" is one of the major joys of table top role playing games! Working together to craft a story all while staying within the constraints of a particular world with it's own set of rules. Super fun stuff, so if you enjoyed that and you don't already I'd suggest playing some D&D!
One of my favorite stories I've ever experienced was a TTRPG campaign that we never got to finish. It still haunts me that we were, like, 4, maybe 5 sessions away from a truly epic finale and then life happened and I don't even know if half of the group are still alive or not cause I haven't heard anything from them in over a decade...
She just kicks it down full force, "You ever wondered why we like butterflies. Like, sure they're pretty, but what do they even do? Well in this video, we're doing to find out..."
The idea of sabrina doing the script as a one woman show, thereby watching herself confess to herself, saying she did it wrong, confessing her love for herself, and then telling herself to confess to herself again like that is amazing to me
@@WyvernYT See, that's the kind of attitude that limits true art. Sabrina might just completely revitalize the genre with the new idea of one-person romcoms.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721What if it's re-written as a science fiction story? Give the character a time machine and she can have a whole series of amusing encounters, near misses, humorous misunderstandings, and meet cutes with herself. :-)
@@WyvernYT That's good; the protagonist searches for the right person but ends up meeting herself, literally. Could play with the typical romcom notion of fate.
As a 90s kids, the lack of good modern romcoms explains the current transition to kdramas. They make some good romcoms that fulfil my need for unrealistic love stories that you can laugh with along the way.
Gods that is so true! I grew up w the 90s romcoms in the early 2010s and the death of it, i just gravitated to anime then bc of the escapism of reality even in the romance animes with beautiful scenery and such. And the exaggeration of emotions also fits the romcom vibes, which probably why kdramas work, bc they show heightened emotions, and they do have a way to show realism to balance out the ridiculousness. But this video was more focused on the reason why western media doesn't have alot of romcoms anymore, which is why other media was left out to not make it too crowded
Question: why are so many people so afraid of being in the hbomb video? He only called out people who were copying other people’s work word-for-word without attribution and permission. Most video essayists (I would assume) don’t do that! So why are they all nervous now???
@@sumitaghosh615 it's basically worrying about your career being destroyed. He's made three videos now that are pretty much digital homicide, so people joke about that happening to them.
@@sumitaghosh615 He exposed plagiarism in big youtubers that now have lost their careers for that. So people now are afraid of commiting plagiarism, even without knowing it, which it was not the case on the video he made, but it still made an impact.
@@sumitaghosh615 Kinda jumping on what everyone else had said: A lot of academics are already worried that they might commit a faux pax that calls their academic integrity into question. Personally, I have a video essay I submitted for a school assignment that I want to re-edit and post one day. Even though I know I didn't plagiarize and, if my professor is to be believed, it's academically sound, I'm still worried I made an oversight in assigning credit and in how I presented the information. Its less "wow a lot of people are telling on themselves lately" and more "A lot of people are aware of the potential consequences and are worried they aren't being careful enough"
@@dreamythesheepBut HBomb pretty explicitly acknowledged that people make simple mistakes all the time, and that it's fine to go back and include that citation you were missing. The people he called out were specifically reading huge swaths--sometimes multiple paragraphs at a time--of other peoples' work, in patterns that spanned multiple videos. So, if you're not doing _that_ you're probably going to get some benefit of the doubt.
Knocked Up still has a certain charm for me tbh. Maybe it's just because the pothead slacker he's playing actually grows as a person a bit. It feels like he does more than clear the absolute lowest bar set for dads.
I love how Sabrina COULD NOT keep her authenticity (gremlin energy) from bleeding through during the video essayist section; the awesome chaos ya'll experiment with is why I love watching your stuff! Proud to be a supporter!
I was in this bar in Vietnam and they had a Vietnamese woman singing live music, one of the songs she picked was the main song from Music & Lyrics. I love that movie (probably top 3 Rom Coms) but I feel like it's not the most commonly known movie so having someone in Vietnam do a cover of the song was crazy to me. As apparently a fellow M&L fan I thought I would share this with you since no one else would appreciate it.
I was looking for rom coms like the ones I grew up watching in the 2000's couldn't find any good new ones. ended up trying out Korean dramas and haven't looked back since. I personally prefer them over Hollywood. I love how the directors capture the stolen glances. the blushing and shyness of both the protagonists and the slow burn of the story. Takes me back to middle school. 😊
Nevertheless is a great example of showing the stolen glances! Too bad it bastardized the original Webtoon’s ending and promotes red flag behavior as a result 😬
I just watched a low budget Telenovela Rom-Com that really shouldn't have been all that special, but it just leaned so earnestly into the Rom-com tropes it's become my favorite series of the year. It was just so refreshing. Just goes to show how hard it is to find a good rom-com, we have to import them internationally 😆
I've been watching almost nothing but Kdramas for the past 4 years because our NA equivalents just aren't fresh anymore. But if there were some writers who could do cross-over ideas that would be approved. That might bring it all back around and become popular here again. I do love the ideas that your outline brought out, and how it looks like you played with the power dynamic.
My childhood was filled with rom coms. Mainly because my parents watched them, but I picked it up from them because the characters and interactions felt great. They had flaws, but I'd argue the flaws made them even more great (in certain situations)
the way you described your feelings after the writers room matches almost exactly with how myself and many others feel after playing a table top rpg. it's like you've watched a great show that you want the world to know but only you and a small group of friends could actually experience it
I just wanna say i appreciate the clever chapter titles, the fact that you use chapters at all, your uses of background music, and your refreshingly honest approach to sponsorships, along with your unique personalities. AI is getting better and better, but i'm fairly certain it won't be able to replace any of you within the next 20 years, and all of that stuff (work) that goes into each video is exactly what initially engaged me and what keeps me coming back. There is a huge sea of educational and informational content available via the information superhighway, but there is only one Answer in Progress.
I was nervous when we jumped to AI to write a movie script, but I'm glad we ended up in a place of recognizing the importance of writers for the movie making process. Incredible!
I’m an English major and I was very surprised when I realized just how important collaboration is! It can make it easier to write if you have multiple minds churning on the same idea. It’s so helpful to have people review your piece and tell you what they think
As a writer I'm so happy you enjoyed the experience of the writers room! Honestly, one of my favorite experiences in college was a group of my writer friends and I sitting down and coming up with story ideas for our school's creative writing magazine.
"it's honestly kinda haunting my brain now, like ine of my favorite romcoms just doesnt exist. it was just a conversation i had with some friends." Sabrina, have you ever *played D&D* because what you just described is D&D lol some of my favorite epic fantasy or comedy stories are from D&D sessions with friends.
I really liked the synthesis of discussing rom-coms with discussing AI since rom-coms are considered extremely formulaic so why couldn't a machine generate that formula. And it was nice seeing the limitations of AI being addressed, not just in terms of plagiarism but in a lack of Something Special (Chest Full of Glitter) to what's often assumed to be scripts anyone can pop out since rom-coms are looked down upon in term of writing prowess. Great video as always!
Okay, Sabrina, if youre not playing Tabletop RPGs, you should know that that "writers room" feeling is so very achievable when playing, and if you wanna feel it again, you should definitely pick up some dice and some friends.
Ideating on stories with a friend or a group of friends is literally the most fun thing. The idea of writing being a solitary activity always makes me sad because srsly nothing tops when you tell an idea and your friend spins it and hands you back a piece of solid gold that you didn’t even realize you’d had all the pieces set up for.
I was low-key shocked by the stillness in the “video essayist” section compared to your normal hyperkinetic delivery-in-motion style. I now realize how much I despise the VE version. Also, thank you for the application of math to something I truly love, RomComs, my forever guilty pleasure.
they're different styles that shine in their own ways :) not to mention that that many video essayists don't actually use that style, and many of those that do are very good at injecting energy in other forms.
Yeah. The key is not so much 'stillness and seriousness' so much as where the energy needs to be re-directed and focused. A good essayist may use a calmer 'sit and talk' segment when they want to focus the attention on very specific points within their words, want to put focus on intonation (to emphasize emotion or feeling in a section) or what not. And they will also understand that they can't JUST sit and talk - they need to break things up to avoid attention fatigue, to highlight section breaks or tone changes, etc.
As an author currently rewriting some of my older work and getting it ready for publication, the whole "reference this from time to time but mostly we're gonna ignore it and focus on what we want to see" really hit home ngl
as somebody who hasn't seen many romcoms, but has enjoyed the middling ones ive seen, this is real interesting! the chatgpt tts script was also hilarious 😆 and, yo, an adam conover guest appearance?! amazing! let's go!
Lol formal green lamp Essayist Sabrina is perfect for the moments she breaks out of character into her usual self. Absolute gold! I was also so stoked they got Adam on here!
honestly im just hungry for content from this amazing channel and their unique style, i dont even care if its about a genre of movies i dont care about
these videos from the editing style, length, thumbnail, title, concept, production quality and everything else are like perfectly crafted for the algorithm rn its honestly impressive
That collaborative storytelling is *exactly* why I adore roleplaying games. getting friends together to bounce ideas of "how could this premise be done differently" sounds like a legit good time
Great video! This is a representation of how to best use AI as an artist. It generates ideas, maybe a rough draft, but the the artists still do most of the work. No more staring at the blank page for hours.
I love how this video discusses a topic that I'm not invested in but still found very interesting, as well as other issues within film and writing. Adam's explanation of AI and writing is really good, especially the part about the effort that goes into scriptwriting and how if someone used AI to create a script they'd be a writer. Also I absolutely need to see this film, just the excitement that Sabrina and the others exude is enough to get me to want it.
I'd like to see Wilt You Marry Me? The main characters can be say, Will and Lilit. Lilit runs a flower shop. The plotline can be Wedding Blues and trying to rekindle their relationship.
LOVE where this video ended up! and the inclusion of Adam Conover in the conversation to talk about the WGA stuff was definitely important ✨ also, how you described the writers room at the end - that's what playing DnD or another ttrpg with a really great group of role players is like. BIG recommend 😄
Your last few words about the writer's room experience reminded me of the spontaneous and thrilling way stories are made up on the spot while playing D&D or any other TTRPG.
15:00 ... One of the theories I've seen floated around to explain the drop in quality is so much fun: The LLM are generating so much output that it is contaminating their training data. They are plagiarizing themself and other LLM and the quality is going down as a result. I don't know if this is true, but I want it to be true.
I thought a lot about the death or romcoms. My conclusion is that old romcoms relied on a bonkers premise, a completely unrealistic situation - he's sleeping or a 13-year old girl wakes up 30 - to create the escapist fairytale feel. BUT THE ACTORS WERE GOOD. No matter how unrealistic the situation, good actors showed us REAL FEELINGS and we believed them. We didn't care the premise was dumb because the characters' love and confusion felt real to us. Then for some reason all the acting in romcoms turned not so good (skill issue or production issue, who knows). When a ridiculous premise was paired with a flat, bland performance we lost the emotional connection and suddenly it all felt just dumb.
deadpool 1 is a great romcom! Everything everywhere all at once could also be considered a romcom. EEAAO is one of the greatest movies ever made in the last 40 years.
Those writer jam sessions are a HUGE reason I LOVE running Live Action Roleplaying systems, and mainly why I've been working on my own for years, if not decades. I want, need, to get it just right. And now that I have at least one person that I feel shares my vision and talent, writing and bouncing creativity is such a fun, wonderful experience. And on top of that, when we do finally make it a reality, we, as producers, get to not only WITNESS our audience as they actively react to what happens, but we get to participate AND communicate with them afterward. And let me tell you. The high of knowing someone loved a scene, event, whatever, that you made, acted, produced, poured your heart into... That's not replicable. Things like roleplay and theatre change people's lives. They can change a person's entire paradigm. I know it changed mine. Thank you for illuminating this in a way only you, and everyone else in the video, could. I couldn't have done it better.
Sabrina, my girl, if you love romcoms go watch Kaguya-sama. Even if you don't like anime it is the single greatest rom-com series ever made. It's funny, wholesome and you just want to show at the two leads "JUST ADMIT IT ALREADY YOU IDIOTS!"
Hard agree! When she talked about how romcoms died, my mind went immediately to anime and to the best romcom to date aka Kaguya-sama: Love is War! Romcoms might have died in Hollywood, but it doesn't matter since Japan does them better either way
@danielleanderson6371 Nice to see some "cultured" comments around here 😂👍🏻 Let me add more anime to this chain. "We Never Learn" (Bokutachi wa benkyou ga dekinai) is a good one, i recommend the manga more than the anime, but either way both are worth watching/reading
Rom com died just in Hollywood. Korean doramas are a huge sucess in Netflix. At least with Brazilian women. Exemple of great rom com is Crash is landing on you, where the protagonist accidentally falls at North Korean and her romantic interest there helps her to escape back to South Korea alive.
When you write a rom com you actually create three movies. You get the rom com, and change the music you get a stalker horror. Finally, you take that horror stalker movie and gender swap it, and you get a ground breaking dramatic movie that is nominated for awards.
15:03 just because why not, I tried asking gpt-4 to come up with a couple of romantic comedy outline ideas :D Here's what I got (literally the first attempt of it): 1. **Reverse Time Romance**: The story is told backwards, starting from the couple breaking up and moving in reverse through the pivotal moments of their relationship. This reverse storytelling can play with the idea of destiny and whether understanding the future would change how we act in the present. The comedy comes from the situations and missed opportunities the characters experience knowing they 'end up together', only to find out in the final reveal how they actually met and why the breakup occurred. 2. **Intergalactic Love**: An Earthling falls in love with an alien under the premise of a cultural exchange program. The movie would place the alien in awkwardly humorous social traditions of human dating, while also exploring themes of xenophobia, adaptation, and the meaning of universal love. Their romance challenges both their species' prejudices and expectations. 3. **Senior Citizen Sweethearts**: A retirement home's new resident-a spirited septuagenarian-isn't ready for the quiet life and starts shaking things up, especially when they start a late-in-life romance with another resident. This story would highlight the comedy that comes with age and experience in love, tackling issues like ageism, the pursuit of passion at any stage in life, and youthful spirits in aging bodies. 4. **Parallel Love**: Two people start using a new virtual reality app that allows them to live out their perfect lives through simulations. Unknowingly, they begin to fall in love with each other's avatars within this shared virtual space. The comedic tension arises from them disliking each other in the real world but needing to reconcile this with their virtual affinity. 5. **Echoes of Love**: A woman discovers her ability to hear what her soulmate is saying out loud at any moment in time, despite being continents apart. They navigate this bizarre connection while trying to find each other, leading to misinterpretations and comedic situations as she tries to piece together who her soulmate is based solely on random conversations.
Loved the video and all the takeaways! Not only did the research feel solid, but the editing is so flawless and fun to watch!! As an artist who's work has been fed into AI without concent, I'd be super interested if you could speak a little about AI art. There are a lot of paralells to writing and a lot of interesting stories going on :)
from the scraps of writing room scenes sabrina gave us? i guess my favorite romcom movie also does not exist, and it's the same one as sabrina's!! genuinely, i am devastated to not be able to watch this movie immediately, it sounds so fun and compelling 👀
ive seen this video take on 3 different titles so far so i thought i should maybe click on it now. though to be honest, this title is way more appealing than the mathematical one. interesting how that works!
this was so fun, i always love to see your videos and i am so so glad to continue seeing how your content grows and changes over time! loved this so much!!
In Indonesia, this month, someone made a refresh Rom-Com, Jatuh Cinta Seperti di Film-Film (Fall in Love Like In Movies). The plot was a scriptwriter tried to propose to his crush by writing and directing a rom-com. Its like a marriage between Nolan's Inception and Linklater's Before Trilogy. A non-handsome average joe actor was deliberately chosen as the main protagonist.
nice, adam conover cameo! loved you using that dumpster fire of a script and employing actual writers to turn it into something meaningful. thats how language models like chatgpt can contribute to the creative process: by becoming a jumping off point to make that blank page less intimidating.
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can't wait for the aftershow
thank you for getting them all tim hortons. it's good to be reminded that america isn't the only country that can pump out brands making shite food sometimes (i think you're in canada and it'll probably get the royal mountees at your door to like this comment so no need to acknowledge).
Why the Thumbnail change?
Why not pitch it to Netflix?
Adam's point that if an executive with ChatGPT could do all the rewrites and studio notes and the dozen other things it takes to actually produce a good script "they'd be a f**king writer" genuinely changed my brain chemistry. Also the joy from the writers room just recharged the batteries in my soul, this whole video SLAPS
havent seen you in a good while, i rlly like your videos, you should make more when u have time
AI needs humans to connect the pieces and explain it to people. This will change quickly, a couple of decades. People will explore infinite spaces of possibility, finding interesting paths worth walking again, and that's the content, the pedagogy, the symbiosis. We already experience this with search, video, etc in our terrestrial and human world
Agreed. Thanks, Adam, for un-ruining my understanding of things.
yup, they like to say it is a tool, but someone needs to wield the tool, usually it is not the boss, unless the boss has experience in the field, the same studios think they can remove the face of an actor and put it on another actor, and that it is a great idea, but what good actor would want to be the one hidden ?
@@devforfun5618my only assumption there would be so that you could brag that you’re the actual body double for a certain celebrity. cus we know actors aren’t gonna just let their faces be used, if it comes down to that they’ll license it out the same way they do for in person acting, it’ll just be cheaper than actually buying their time. people would certainly be happy to be known as the body for a celebrity if they do well enough. then comes the bottom line, it’s just going to be a lot of people desperate for auditions… so we would certainly have to define “good” actor. because it could very well just stunt any growth of hollywood. we would never need to find new faces, literally ever. acting would become something so different and dystopian i really just scared myself writing this comment
"my favorite romcom only exist in my head" welcome to thw world of writing
That’s the easy part.
The hard part is getting it out of your head.
That's honestly such a great description of art.
Huzzah for fanfiction, the only form of romance I actually care about!
Why slash fics are interesting while traditional romance bores me, I can't say. I still prefer deep intimacy in nonsexual, non-romantic forms (close friendships, sibling bonds), to the point where I created a whole fic form to showcase that ("Five Moments of Intimacy"), but I can tolerate way more romantic content in slash than I ever could in mainstream fiction of any sort 🤷🏽♀️
...also I lost the point I was trying to make (stupid tiny textbox on RUclips Mobile!), but it was that we get to make those romances that truly appeal to us, and find other people who also enjoy them -- and also get to find ones that are close to what we like, and build off them to be *precisely* what we want. It's quite freeing!
Lmao same, but I'm working on getting it out!
I had never heard of bride wars but I misinterpreted the AI synopsis as the two wedding planners are falling for each other and now I need THAT movie instead.
I thought that's where it was going
A crazy couple with ridiculous standards hires 2 wedding planners to leverage their ideas against each other, the wedding planners cross paths and clash over and over while falling in love.
@@zyaicobYES I NEED THIS NOW
21 dresses isn't exactly that movie, but it's in the neighborhood! might hold you over while you guys work on the screenplay for "the wedding planners" (tried to think of a better title, but no dice - sorry!)
@@djradost6524 21 dresses has the right vibe yeah, the leads in that would actually be kinda perfect for this movie
this has made me realize that good romcoms are still being made but they're on ao3
This! And to me the process of the writers room taking an unsatisfactory source material and proposing new original ideas or trying to “fix-it” is the same process as a lot of fanfiction
YESS THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING!!
VALID!!
I just text this video to a friend saying "the writer's room is just us making fanfic"
OMG! Did you lie?!!!
I dont know why but it has never accured to me that video essayist might be using a teleprompter instead of just memorizing their lines
I mean…
I wager a lot of Tom Scott’s material is from memory.
@@FlyingCIRCU175 Oh yeah, I think he's said as much. Plus difficult to use a teleprompter in the field
Tom Scott said on the WVFRM podcasts "of course I use a teleprompter"
*occurred
"After all the media theorising, it was _capitalism_ ?!" 😂
The true ending of every video essay. Welcome to the genre Sabrina 😛
They don’t say “money is root of all evil” for nothing 🤷♀️
Yeah, because things were better in the beginning of stationary settlements.
I snorted out laughing at the sheer disbelief in her voice 😂😂😂
@@JSSMVCJR2.1 my bro has the knowledge and abstraction capabilities of a toddler, but fancies themselves a smart dude.
@@Anankin12 And what's so smart about the same old marxist lecture that makes me a toddler, eh?
Nice get getting Adam to guest on your video. The WGA did well choosing him as one of faces of the striking writers, he’s both passionate and articulate on the issues.
I bet they are happy now, that people.
He is also funny, which probably adds well.
@@marocat4749 Fuuny? You mean because of the "Fucking Writer" part or which facet?
@@marocat4749 Did he play the soviet anthem when they won?
Oh my god, the idea of having the director confessing his love to show the actor how to do it would probably take my breath away, I'm not even a fan of romcoms but if that was executed correctly I think I would shed some tears
exactly !!
And then, vburst out laughing when he tells the actor "see ? That's how it's done ! Now do it !"
Oh dude that sounds seriously interesting
Moulin Rouge! (2001)
It’s that scene, except there’s not a happy romcom ending.
"My favorite rom-com doesn't exist!" Me every time I start writing
The writer's room energy is so real, though. A near-perfect high (as long as you aren't doing it for a studio day in and day out, I assume). See also: unhinged, collaborative RPG playing.
Hbomberguy has become the boogeyman of all video essayists 😂
FR. Every time I see a video essayist taking the time to highlight the specific line they are quoting from an article, I think "Harris caused this".
her dig at Somerton cracked me up
To be fair, all essayists are leftist.
@@3row4wy23I don't know about the history of this, but surely many people would get the idea independently to highlight the thing they're referencing, no?
@@MissNoechen basically, like a week ago Hbomberguy released a video in which he called out three really (one formerly) popular youtubers for being purposeful plagiarists (using major pieces of articles and books in their scripts, only partially citing how much they copy or just reading an entire article without citing it, etc) after which many video essayists have been reviewing the way they cite stuff, including highlighting anything they cite so it's really obvious what they cite and how much to make sure they're not plagiarising themselves
So that interaction you had with your "writers room" is one of the major joys of table top role playing games! Working together to craft a story all while staying within the constraints of a particular world with it's own set of rules. Super fun stuff, so if you enjoyed that and you don't already I'd suggest playing some D&D!
"My favorite romcom doesn't exist it's just a conversation I had with my friends."
Every TTRPG player ever just nodded in sympathy lol
One of my favorite stories I've ever experienced was a TTRPG campaign that we never got to finish. It still haunts me that we were, like, 4, maybe 5 sessions away from a truly epic finale and then life happened and I don't even know if half of the group are still alive or not cause I haven't heard anything from them in over a decade...
Critical Role living the dream and animating their romances.
At this point I half expect Sabrina to bust down my door to educate me
How do you feel about papayas?!
Bro wants Sabrina to bust down 💀
How's she gonna flex her python skills on us then? Oh wait
Hit that bell and she will do just that
She just kicks it down full force, "You ever wondered why we like butterflies. Like, sure they're pretty, but what do they even do? Well in this video, we're doing to find out..."
The idea of sabrina doing the script as a one woman show, thereby watching herself confess to herself, saying she did it wrong, confessing her love for herself, and then telling herself to confess to herself again like that is amazing to me
I feel that a good romantic comedy needs a least two actors. :-) But, yeah, I would totally watch Sabrina do the whole thing, too.
@@WyvernYT See, that's the kind of attitude that limits true art. Sabrina might just completely revitalize the genre with the new idea of one-person romcoms.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721What if it's re-written as a science fiction story? Give the character a time machine and she can have a whole series of amusing encounters, near misses, humorous misunderstandings, and meet cutes with herself. :-)
@@WyvernYT That's good; the protagonist searches for the right person but ends up meeting herself, literally. Could play with the typical romcom notion of fate.
I think they should get in touch with Caroline klinodas, one woman romcoms are kind of her specialty
As a 90s kids, the lack of good modern romcoms explains the current transition to kdramas. They make some good romcoms that fulfil my need for unrealistic love stories that you can laugh with along the way.
I know this video is not new but I was expecting her to say this!
Yes, and BBC TV adaptations too.
Gods that is so true! I grew up w the 90s romcoms in the early 2010s and the death of it, i just gravitated to anime then bc of the escapism of reality even in the romance animes with beautiful scenery and such.
And the exaggeration of emotions also fits the romcom vibes, which probably why kdramas work, bc they show heightened emotions, and they do have a way to show realism to balance out the ridiculousness.
But this video was more focused on the reason why western media doesn't have alot of romcoms anymore, which is why other media was left out to not make it too crowded
The existential horror of being in the latter half of an hbomberguy video knows no bounds. It seeps into every part of daily life.
Question: why are so many people so afraid of being in the hbomb video? He only called out people who were copying other people’s work word-for-word without attribution and permission. Most video essayists (I would assume) don’t do that! So why are they all nervous now???
@@sumitaghosh615 it's basically worrying about your career being destroyed. He's made three videos now that are pretty much digital homicide, so people joke about that happening to them.
@@sumitaghosh615 He exposed plagiarism in big youtubers that now have lost their careers for that. So people now are afraid of commiting plagiarism, even without knowing it, which it was not the case on the video he made, but it still made an impact.
@@sumitaghosh615 Kinda jumping on what everyone else had said: A lot of academics are already worried that they might commit a faux pax that calls their academic integrity into question. Personally, I have a video essay I submitted for a school assignment that I want to re-edit and post one day. Even though I know I didn't plagiarize and, if my professor is to be believed, it's academically sound, I'm still worried I made an oversight in assigning credit and in how I presented the information. Its less "wow a lot of people are telling on themselves lately" and more "A lot of people are aware of the potential consequences and are worried they aren't being careful enough"
@@dreamythesheepBut HBomb pretty explicitly acknowledged that people make simple mistakes all the time, and that it's fine to go back and include that citation you were missing. The people he called out were specifically reading huge swaths--sometimes multiple paragraphs at a time--of other peoples' work, in patterns that spanned multiple videos. So, if you're not doing _that_ you're probably going to get some benefit of the doubt.
4:42 Sabrina, you can't even roast a Seth Rogan movie without apologising! Never change. 😂
Knocked Up still has a certain charm for me tbh. Maybe it's just because the pothead slacker he's playing actually grows as a person a bit. It feels like he does more than clear the absolute lowest bar set for dads.
O Canada
NGL, that one scene with the director showing the actor how to do it. Got me. I would love to see that in a movie.
Sameeee
LITERALLY I was like pls I need to see more of this
Moulin Rouge! (2001) It’s just not exactly a rom-com since it’s a tragic ending.
Shakespeare in Love.
"IT WAS CAPITALISM?" killed me 😂😂
i mean if you finish the script you could sell it to netflix and they would probably do a pretty good job of it.
"This is Plagerism?"
GIANT GHOST HBOMBERGUY
I love how Sabrina COULD NOT keep her authenticity (gremlin energy) from bleeding through during the video essayist section; the awesome chaos ya'll experiment with is why I love watching your stuff! Proud to be a supporter!
11:39
The hbomberguy fade in is halarious.
That "something I love doesn't exist" line is such a good way to describe how creatives feel 😅
I was in this bar in Vietnam and they had a Vietnamese woman singing live music, one of the songs she picked was the main song from Music & Lyrics. I love that movie (probably top 3 Rom Coms) but I feel like it's not the most commonly known movie so having someone in Vietnam do a cover of the song was crazy to me. As apparently a fellow M&L fan I thought I would share this with you since no one else would appreciate it.
"*Pop* goes my heeeaaaart!"
I was looking for rom coms like the ones I grew up watching in the 2000's couldn't find any good new ones. ended up trying out Korean dramas and haven't looked back since. I personally prefer them over Hollywood. I love how the directors capture the stolen glances. the blushing and shyness of both the protagonists and the slow burn of the story. Takes me back to middle school. 😊
Nevertheless is a great example of showing the stolen glances! Too bad it bastardized the original Webtoon’s ending and promotes red flag behavior as a result 😬
I just watched a low budget Telenovela Rom-Com that really shouldn't have been all that special, but it just leaned so earnestly into the Rom-com tropes it's become my favorite series of the year. It was just so refreshing. Just goes to show how hard it is to find a good rom-com, we have to import them internationally 😆
I really hope this ends up becoming an accidental backdoor pilot to a new "Sabrina becomes a filmmaker" series
I've been watching almost nothing but Kdramas for the past 4 years because our NA equivalents just aren't fresh anymore. But if there were some writers who could do cross-over ideas that would be approved. That might bring it all back around and become popular here again.
I do love the ideas that your outline brought out, and how it looks like you played with the power dynamic.
My childhood was filled with rom coms. Mainly because my parents watched them, but I picked it up from them because the characters and interactions felt great. They had flaws, but I'd argue the flaws made them even more great (in certain situations)
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57 i cant read :(
RUclips asked me to rate your comment and i gave it a 5 star rating.( Cause it felt very genuine)😊
the way you described your feelings after the writers room matches almost exactly with how myself and many others feel after playing a table top rpg.
it's like you've watched a great show that you want the world to know but only you and a small group of friends could actually experience it
I just wanna say i appreciate the clever chapter titles, the fact that you use chapters at all, your uses of background music, and your refreshingly honest approach to sponsorships, along with your unique personalities.
AI is getting better and better, but i'm fairly certain it won't be able to replace any of you within the next 20 years, and all of that stuff (work) that goes into each video is exactly what initially engaged me and what keeps me coming back.
There is a huge sea of educational and informational content available via the information superhighway, but there is only one Answer in Progress.
I was nervous when we jumped to AI to write a movie script, but I'm glad we ended up in a place of recognizing the importance of writers for the movie making process. Incredible!
You make my favorite videos right now! Please keep it up 👍
Yeah
@DontReadMyProfilePicture.57 Shut up
Grindhard?! What are you all doing here?
Never in a million years would I have thought these two channels I consistently watch would have some sort of interaction.
Incredible
Collab when?
I’m an English major and I was very surprised when I realized just how important collaboration is!
It can make it easier to write if you have multiple minds churning on the same idea.
It’s so helpful to have people review your piece and tell you what they think
I mean some good series exist because studios said, we like
The "I know this isn't plagiarised but I'm still scared" had me chuckling out loud 😂
As a writer I'm so happy you enjoyed the experience of the writers room! Honestly, one of my favorite experiences in college was a group of my writer friends and I sitting down and coming up with story ideas for our school's creative writing magazine.
They've summoned him (11:37)! Sabrina should probably start working on an apology video.
I'd like to imagine that that wasn't edited in, his face just did that
I love how everyone is just terrified of hbomberguy now XD
Also at 3:03 lmaooo
"it's honestly kinda haunting my brain now, like ine of my favorite romcoms just doesnt exist. it was just a conversation i had with some friends." Sabrina, have you ever *played D&D* because what you just described is D&D lol some of my favorite epic fantasy or comedy stories are from D&D sessions with friends.
I really liked the synthesis of discussing rom-coms with discussing AI since rom-coms are considered extremely formulaic so why couldn't a machine generate that formula. And it was nice seeing the limitations of AI being addressed, not just in terms of plagiarism but in a lack of Something Special (Chest Full of Glitter) to what's often assumed to be scripts anyone can pop out since rom-coms are looked down upon in term of writing prowess. Great video as always!
Okay, Sabrina, if youre not playing Tabletop RPGs, you should know that that "writers room" feeling is so very achievable when playing, and if you wanna feel it again, you should definitely pick up some dice and some friends.
Ideating on stories with a friend or a group of friends is literally the most fun thing. The idea of writing being a solitary activity always makes me sad because srsly nothing tops when you tell an idea and your friend spins it and hands you back a piece of solid gold that you didn’t even realize you’d had all the pieces set up for.
I was low-key shocked by the stillness in the “video essayist” section compared to your normal hyperkinetic delivery-in-motion style. I now realize how much I despise the VE version. Also, thank you for the application of math to something I truly love, RomComs, my forever guilty pleasure.
they're different styles that shine in their own ways :) not to mention that that many video essayists don't actually use that style, and many of those that do are very good at injecting energy in other forms.
Yeah. The key is not so much 'stillness and seriousness' so much as where the energy needs to be re-directed and focused. A good essayist may use a calmer 'sit and talk' segment when they want to focus the attention on very specific points within their words, want to put focus on intonation (to emphasize emotion or feeling in a section) or what not. And they will also understand that they can't JUST sit and talk - they need to break things up to avoid attention fatigue, to highlight section breaks or tone changes, etc.
TBH I kinda preferred it...
Pls write that script and send it to some studio. WE NEED TO SEE IT IRL
AMEN
AMEN
Write that script and do it your self. Give your Patreons associate producer (is that a thing?) credits.
As an author currently rewriting some of my older work and getting it ready for publication, the whole "reference this from time to time but mostly we're gonna ignore it and focus on what we want to see" really hit home ngl
as somebody who hasn't seen many romcoms, but has enjoyed the middling ones ive seen, this is real interesting!
the chatgpt tts script was also hilarious 😆
and, yo, an adam conover guest appearance?! amazing! let's go!
Lol formal green lamp Essayist Sabrina is perfect for the moments she breaks out of character into her usual self. Absolute gold!
I was also so stoked they got Adam on here!
honestly im just hungry for content from this amazing channel and their unique style, i dont even care if its about a genre of movies i dont care about
The James Sommerton aesthetic paired with the “I know this isn’t plagerized but I’m still scared” is killing me
The turtleneck! The lamp! The skull! Perfection
these videos from the editing style, length, thumbnail, title, concept, production quality and everything else are like perfectly crafted for the algorithm rn its honestly impressive
Also, Sabrina could become a stock image creator with how great the writers' room and the video essay set looked.
4:35 I just noticed the inheritance games in the pile of books above iron widow and I’m excited to see the rest of this video play out.
That collaborative storytelling is *exactly* why I adore roleplaying games. getting friends together to bounce ideas of "how could this premise be done differently" sounds like a legit good time
The Somerton impression is wild
Still one of the most underrated channels on RUclips. Love this you guys, keep it up!
lol that hbomberguy cameo killed me
That Hugh Grant fade out was genius 6:44
Great video! This is a representation of how to best use AI as an artist. It generates ideas, maybe a rough draft, but the the artists still do most of the work. No more staring at the blank page for hours.
I love how this video discusses a topic that I'm not invested in but still found very interesting, as well as other issues within film and writing. Adam's explanation of AI and writing is really good, especially the part about the effort that goes into scriptwriting and how if someone used AI to create a script they'd be a writer.
Also I absolutely need to see this film, just the excitement that Sabrina and the others exude is enough to get me to want it.
I'd like to see Wilt You Marry Me? The main characters can be say, Will and Lilit. Lilit runs a flower shop. The plotline can be Wedding Blues and trying to rekindle their relationship.
LOVE where this video ended up! and the inclusion of Adam Conover in the conversation to talk about the WGA stuff was definitely important ✨
also, how you described the writers room at the end - that's what playing DnD or another ttrpg with a really great group of role players is like. BIG recommend 😄
“…and other concepts were difficult to look past.”
*Highlights Dane Cook*
Nice touch 😂
Your last few words about the writer's room experience reminded me of the spontaneous and thrilling way stories are made up on the spot while playing D&D or any other TTRPG.
15:00 ... One of the theories I've seen floated around to explain the drop in quality is so much fun: The LLM are generating so much output that it is contaminating their training data. They are plagiarizing themself and other LLM and the quality is going down as a result. I don't know if this is true, but I want it to be true.
11:43 thath bomberguy watermark nearly killed me I laughed so hard.
Petition for Nebula to fund your romcom!
That's exactly what I was thinking!!
Omg yesss, nebula please!
This would definitely push me over the edge and convince me to subscribe to Nebula
Is this the Nebulist cult?
If a creator-centered economy means anything, it should mean that Sabrina gets to write a romcom!
So good ... Super smart, great communicator, funny, great editing and cinematography ... Another great video... I am happy I've subscribed :)
omg carley??? the surprise of seeing her in this video. unexpected but now looking forward even MORE to the result of the group project lol.
I thought a lot about the death or romcoms. My conclusion is that old romcoms relied on a bonkers premise, a completely unrealistic situation - he's sleeping or a 13-year old girl wakes up 30 - to create the escapist fairytale feel. BUT THE ACTORS WERE GOOD. No matter how unrealistic the situation, good actors showed us REAL FEELINGS and we believed them. We didn't care the premise was dumb because the characters' love and confusion felt real to us. Then for some reason all the acting in romcoms turned not so good (skill issue or production issue, who knows). When a ridiculous premise was paired with a flat, bland performance we lost the emotional connection and suddenly it all felt just dumb.
I can’t believe Answer in Progress would ever think their fans want to smell good.
okay but that scene y'all were talking about, with director confessing his love but it's to show an actor "how to do it", i'd eat that up tho
deadpool 1 is a great romcom!
Everything everywhere all at once could also be considered a romcom. EEAAO is one of the greatest movies ever made in the last 40 years.
Those writer jam sessions are a HUGE reason I LOVE running Live Action Roleplaying systems, and mainly why I've been working on my own for years, if not decades. I want, need, to get it just right. And now that I have at least one person that I feel shares my vision and talent, writing and bouncing creativity is such a fun, wonderful experience. And on top of that, when we do finally make it a reality, we, as producers, get to not only WITNESS our audience as they actively react to what happens, but we get to participate AND communicate with them afterward. And let me tell you. The high of knowing someone loved a scene, event, whatever, that you made, acted, produced, poured your heart into... That's not replicable. Things like roleplay and theatre change people's lives. They can change a person's entire paradigm.
I know it changed mine.
Thank you for illuminating this in a way only you, and everyone else in the video, could. I couldn't have done it better.
Sabrina, my girl, if you love romcoms go watch Kaguya-sama. Even if you don't like anime it is the single greatest rom-com series ever made. It's funny, wholesome and you just want to show at the two leads "JUST ADMIT IT ALREADY YOU IDIOTS!"
Hard agree! When she talked about how romcoms died, my mind went immediately to anime and to the best romcom to date aka Kaguya-sama: Love is War! Romcoms might have died in Hollywood, but it doesn't matter since Japan does them better either way
@danielleanderson6371 Nice to see some "cultured" comments around here 😂👍🏻
Let me add more anime to this chain. "We Never Learn" (Bokutachi wa benkyou ga dekinai) is a good one, i recommend the manga more than the anime, but either way both are worth watching/reading
@danielleanderson6371I love that series! I consider it peak high school comedy 😆
Rom com died just in Hollywood. Korean doramas are a huge sucess in Netflix. At least with Brazilian women. Exemple of great rom com is Crash is landing on you, where the protagonist accidentally falls at North Korean and her romantic interest there helps her to escape back to South Korea alive.
Host Club!! XD
The simple joy of creativity being expressed in a writers room and having a good time warms my heart.
When you write a rom com you actually create three movies. You get the rom com, and change the music you get a stalker horror. Finally, you take that horror stalker movie and gender swap it, and you get a ground breaking dramatic movie that is nominated for awards.
15:03 just because why not, I tried asking gpt-4 to come up with a couple of romantic comedy outline ideas :D
Here's what I got (literally the first attempt of it):
1. **Reverse Time Romance**: The story is told backwards, starting from the couple breaking up and moving in reverse through the pivotal moments of their relationship. This reverse storytelling can play with the idea of destiny and whether understanding the future would change how we act in the present. The comedy comes from the situations and missed opportunities the characters experience knowing they 'end up together', only to find out in the final reveal how they actually met and why the breakup occurred.
2. **Intergalactic Love**: An Earthling falls in love with an alien under the premise of a cultural exchange program. The movie would place the alien in awkwardly humorous social traditions of human dating, while also exploring themes of xenophobia, adaptation, and the meaning of universal love. Their romance challenges both their species' prejudices and expectations.
3. **Senior Citizen Sweethearts**: A retirement home's new resident-a spirited septuagenarian-isn't ready for the quiet life and starts shaking things up, especially when they start a late-in-life romance with another resident. This story would highlight the comedy that comes with age and experience in love, tackling issues like ageism, the pursuit of passion at any stage in life, and youthful spirits in aging bodies.
4. **Parallel Love**: Two people start using a new virtual reality app that allows them to live out their perfect lives through simulations. Unknowingly, they begin to fall in love with each other's avatars within this shared virtual space. The comedic tension arises from them disliking each other in the real world but needing to reconcile this with their virtual affinity.
5. **Echoes of Love**: A woman discovers her ability to hear what her soulmate is saying out loud at any moment in time, despite being continents apart. They navigate this bizarre connection while trying to find each other, leading to misinterpretations and comedic situations as she tries to piece together who her soulmate is based solely on random conversations.
Woah a crossover between Answer in Progress and Adam Conover from Adam Ruins Everything? Just when I thought the video couldn’t get better!
You continue to be awesome! Thanks! I'm even a bit less meh about rom-coms now. Good job!
Loved the video and all the takeaways! Not only did the research feel solid, but the editing is so flawless and fun to watch!!
As an artist who's work has been fed into AI without concent, I'd be super interested if you could speak a little about AI art.
There are a lot of paralells to writing and a lot of interesting stories going on :)
honestly it´s so much fun to have someone to talk to about story ideas, because it can be hilarious but you can also stumble over some great ideas :3
Ripping of the style of James Sommerton in the beginning is just *chef's kiss*
Honestly the script of love in the limelight felt like it was an amateur fanfic of a self insert and a real life actor
I may never act on it, but your videos always make me want to try the things you show off.
from the scraps of writing room scenes sabrina gave us? i guess my favorite romcom movie also does not exist, and it's the same one as sabrina's!! genuinely, i am devastated to not be able to watch this movie immediately, it sounds so fun and compelling 👀
As a Writer my favorite book I’ve ever read also doesn’t exist I feel you and getting to the existence is hard!
Im writing my EE and can't help but notice that all AIP videos feel like video versions of IB Extended Essays
OMG FELLOW IB SRUDENT???
It's so nice to see other people in the same boat as me hehe and hope the EE went well!!!
Man Up with Lake Bell and Simon Pegg is one of my favorite recent rom coms!
it would be something magnificent if this just ended up being a hit movie in a few years
"Other problems were difficult to look past"
ive seen this video take on 3 different titles so far so i thought i should maybe click on it now. though to be honest, this title is way more appealing than the mathematical one. interesting how that works!
15:20 IT'S MY SECOND FAVORITE ROUND GLASSES WEARING NERD!
(I audibly screamed "YEAHH!!!")
Thankfully there's tons of wholesome rom-com manga if the movies are not satisfactory
You cited a study i just used in my BSc project report at 15:08 . Instantly recognized it and it made me irrationally happy 😂.
“This isn’t plagiarized” lol Sabrina
Extremely topical lmao
this was so fun, i always love to see your videos and i am so so glad to continue seeing how your content grows and changes over time! loved this so much!!
MAKE IT INTO A BOOK! ❤❤❤
Palm Springs was my favorite somewhat recent rom-com. Very solid groundhog day premise. Good movie.
SABRINA I ASPIRE TO BE LIKE YOU
In Indonesia, this month, someone made a refresh Rom-Com, Jatuh Cinta Seperti di Film-Film (Fall in Love Like In Movies). The plot was a scriptwriter tried to propose to his crush by writing and directing a rom-com. Its like a marriage between Nolan's Inception and Linklater's Before Trilogy. A non-handsome average joe actor was deliberately chosen as the main protagonist.
nice, adam conover cameo!
loved you using that dumpster fire of a script and employing actual writers to turn it into something meaningful. thats how language models like chatgpt can contribute to the creative process: by becoming a jumping off point to make that blank page less intimidating.